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  1. While it is true it cannot be confirmed by anyone who worked on the SatAM cartoon that Naugus wanted to rule the world, considering what Ben Hurst had in mind with him for Season 3, I would wager more than likely he did. At the very least. he does now with Robotnik currently out of the picture and allying with Snively to keep the Freedom Fighters in line. I remember someone on the staff, possibly Ben Hurst mentioning something about Naugus using Sally's dad as a way to get Sally to obey him or something of that nature. Why else would Naugus do that unless he was after control of the planet? If he truly was just after getting revenge on Julian, then his alliance with Snively would have been temporary after it was accomplished. He would have no reason to help him any further, but as we saw at the end of Season 2, that wasn't the case. Their alliance and plans were only getting started. Bottom line is, Naugus was going to be a major villain in the next season before it was cancelled. What extent and role he was going to play in it though is sadly speculation at best since it never got close to being made into production. I wish the Satam writing staff had shared their thoughts more about what they had in mind for Season 3, even answering some questions about the show's mysteries concerning Naugus, Robotnik and Snively because I would have loved to know why they gave them that kind of backstory in the first place.
  2. This reply has been long overdue, but anyway... I fully agree the Great War in the comics had tons of issues concerning its story, plot and so on. Granted, I do like how the comics at least tried to give some details about what happened, even if it wasn't very well written. Basically, my biggest issue with what started the Great War. I mean, over some target practice? Seriously? How lame can you get? That goes triple for the whole no guns law. Yea, because that makes sense when fighting a war with an enemy. -.- The Great War should have been a result of something A LOT more personal than just some mere accident. Like for example, I'd have it started over the "death" of King Max's son Elias by some rogue Overlanders. Then in return, King Max kills Colin's wife in a retaliatory strike to even the score after Colin shows him no sympathy about it. It's not perfect I admit, but that would make 1000 times more sense for why the Overlanders and Mobians would fight a huge war over compared to what Archie Sonic did. I fully agree Robotnik and Naugus' way of doing things, they do contradict each other when it comes to their methods, so a partnership would appear to be counterproductive. Granted, the one thing it does have in its favor that outweighs its cons: A puppet master. This is just a mere guess on my part, but why I believe Naugus and Robotnik entered a partnership was because both of them gave the other something they couldn't get alone. In Robotnik's case, having a wizard using his magic to sway the masses to his way of thinking. I hate the Mecha Sally Arc with a passion, but I must confess the part involving Naugus using his magic to sway the crowd against Nicole was a very fascinating concept for explaining how Julian could have done that as well when taking over Mobius. In Naugus case, he gets a puppet to control and use to take over the planet where he would then seize power soon afterwards. This is also just a guess on my part, but I suspect before the Great War, Naugus was an exiled criminal on the planet, possibly for attempting a coup against their kingdom or something of that nature beforehand. Bottom line is, he couldn't take over the planet by himself because if he could have, he would have already done so. Oh I fully agree. They are two different universes. Granted, I do believe Satam did take some influence from the comics when making their own series. They are quite a few similarities between the two. Oh I agree Robotnik's brother should have been done better in the comics. I mean, he was the king of the Overlanders for crying out loud. He was so disrespected in the comics. Colin should have played a much larger part in the whole scheme of things when it came to the Great War and how it affected the current timeline. But yea, it's Archie. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised they screwed it up this badly. Basically, I see Snively's family as a driving force for Snively when it comes to his character arc and his morality. In his father's case, I see him as someone who inadvertently pushed him towards being evil because I have a strong feeling his father would favor Hope over him due to the fact she would be superior when it came to skills, not to mention looks. I mean, the fact Snively is so small compared to most Overlanders would definitely have some affect on Snively father when it came to their relationship. He is a king after all, so having a son that looked like a midget would not exactly look good for his family's image. It's for that reason why I believe Julian took advantage of the situation. He saw someone who was yearning for his father's love and respect, but never got it, so he would give it to Snively as a way to control him and eventually threaten him to do his bidding if he didn't want to get hurt or worse. As for Snively's mom, I would have her be the exact opposite where she would love Snively just the way he is and try to be the one to help bring her husband and son together when it came to their differences. It's for that very reason why I have her end up tragically killed because had she lived, I don't believe Snively would have turned out as bad as he did. Basically something similar to how people have speculated if Qui-Gon Jinn had lived, Anakin wouldn't have become Darth Vader, but I digress. I see his sister Hope in a similar way to her mother. She would love her brother and support him, only giving up on him when he turned evil and wasn't remorseful for his actions. Although, I do plan to have them reconcile later as a way for Snively to eventually come to his senses and turn on Julian in the end. But that's just my take on this.
  3. Here's another couple of questions I'd like some feedback on 1: Do you think the Great War from the Archie Series would fit in the Satam universe as part of its prequel story? If so, how would you write it? 2: How would you show Robotnik scheming to take over the world with Naugus? 3: Do you believe Snively's family from the Archie series would fit in the Satam universe? And when I say family, I mean his mother, father and sister. If so, how would you write them as part of the series?
  4. Best: Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 easily, maybe even Sonic 06 and Sonic Forces to a certain extent. Sure, there would be have to be some changes to the story and universe for it to fit, but the Satam cast and its elements would fit pretty well in these type of games. Heck, I'm just going to say Sonic 06 and Sonic Forces would've been a hundred times better had it involved them instead of Elise and Classic Sonic. Worst: Sonic Boom ones. Enough said.
  5. Another question I've been meaning to ask is if you would have the Original Freedom Fighters in the Satam universe, what changes would you make for them to fit in it?
  6. Yea, that is one thing I can full heartedly agree with about Sonic Satam compared to Archie Sonic. Bunnie showed no interest in Antoine whatsoever, neither did he show any interest in her for that matter either. Now do I think they could have ended up falling in love in Satam? I would honestly have to say... it's possible. If Antoine had matured and become a better individual in later Satam seasons as he did in Archie Sonic, it's possible Bunnie might have seen him in a different light and fallen for him. Who knows? It's possible Antoine by that time would have given up on trying to win Sally over seeing it wasn't happening and given Bunnie a shot instead. Who can honestly say it would never happen? We'll sadly never know since the series ended too early. EXACTLY. That's something Satam seriously lacked depth on. We never saw HOW they became the elite freedom fighters they are in the show. Sure, we saw one episode with an older character named Cat who might have trained them, but again, the show never went into detail about it. That is one thing I have to give Sonic Underground over this show. They at least made an attempt to show how Sonic and his siblings learned to fight and take care of themselves. That is one reason why I brought up the Original Freedom Fighters because after learning about them, they seemed perfect for this role. It's really a shame they didn't get more development because they had so much potential as part of the Sonic series. While what you say is true, I've actually grown less fond of the multi timelines as well as the Blast to the Past episodes in the series over time. I'm not saying they're bad, they're just... pointless for the most part considering they really didn't change much. Sure, they saved Rosie and all, but the fact she never returned made that whole adventure moot. Yes, I know it wasn't Ben Hurst's fault on that. He wanted to have her in later episodes, but the idiots he worked for wouldn't let him. Why? I'll never know. I don't see what their problem was with Rosie being added. I mean, they were ok adding Dulcy without any introduction, so it made no sense at all. I full heartedly agree. I found it dumb they were rescuing Sonic at age seven. Seriously, Sonic had no business being there at that young of age. Granted, I started to have Sonic doing Freedom Fighters missions at the age of ten since the show pretty much acknowledged that, but ten is at least a little more understandable since Sonic is starting to develop as a Freedom Fighter and wants to get in there as soon as possible to punish Robotnik for all the crimes and pain he's caused him and those he cares about. I again full heartedly agree with your assessment here about Trey. His character is extremely predictable, thus would need a complete overhaul to work. I've even gone so far as to remove him as part of the group entirely because as you said, he doesn't even look like he's got any military training at all compared to the others. If he was to have any connections to the team, they would be short lived, like maybe he started as part of the group, but due to his unethical methods, the other members kicked him out and went their separate ways. As for his betrayal of them, I think I'd keep it in there since I do believe it can still work, but it would have to tweaked where he did it more out of desperation compared to getting a bounty. That way, he could come off more sympathetically for his actions, especially if say like he reconciled with them before this happened as a way to make it more sad. For example, I would have it so he'd be torn between helping them or saving someone like his wife and/or child since I could see Robotnik abducting them and using them as a way to make Trey do his bidding or he would kill them if he refused. I know that would still be a little predictable, but at least in that case, it would justify Trey's actions alot more if he was fleshed out for why he did what he did. Just having him betray his team for the money without explaining why he felt the need to do that was very shallow of a reason. Yea, I know money is a powerful motivator and all, but still... it's way too cliched of a reason.
  7. Might as well ask this to revive this thread. What is your opinion of the Original Freedom Fighters from the Archie Sonic comic? Do you think they could have fit in the Satam universe as part of the series? And if they would need to be tweaked to fit, how would you do it? For those who don't know who I'm referring to, here's a link to them: https://archiesonic.fandom.com/wiki/Original_Freedom_Fighters
  8. Interesting idea. Not sure how I would have Nicole pursue her own humanity though if I'm being honest, especially since in my story, I follow Ben Hurst's idea of Nicole basically being Sally's childhood friend that was abducted by Robotnik and converted her very conscience into a super computer. I'd be curious to see what you would have in mind for Nicole to have her feel and be more than just an A.I. As for the creation of Gamma, I mostly went with the concept of Robotnik stealing the data of a robot from another scientist and making his own version of it, thus Gamma was created from it as a result. Considering Julian stole Sir Charles' data on the roboticizer and made his own version of it, I figured it'd be in character for him to do it again, especially if the design and schematics were very high tech and superior to his own current machines. That is a good point now that I think about it. I suppose in that case, I'd limit Tails' Freedom Fighter skills to being a master pilot of aircrafts and mechs, as well as having very strong combat skills. That way, Rotor still can be the mechanic and tech guy while Sally still is the main strategist. Granted, I don't see anything wrong with Tails coming up with plans every now and then. Sure, it should be a rarity, but I think if done in small doses, it would work just fine. I mean, Season 2 had an episode of him coming up the plan of attack and I thought it worked pretty well overall. Honestly, I don't know for sure if I'm being completely honest. I mean, I'd keep him relevant by making it so he's able to fix almost anything, but that would be about it. I certainly wouldn't have him wear a nano suit like the comics. No offense to anyone who liked that, but I found him using that completely stupid. Rotor isn't the fighting type and never will be. Now I'd be cool with him piloting a mech to use in battle since that would keep him in character, but not using some super suit. He isn't Iron Man. That nano suit should have been given to someone else, not Rotor.
  9. I won't reveal who exactly she is just yet, but I'll give a hint: She wasn't named Zoey by accident or chance.
  10. Chapter 4 is finally finished. I finally got a spark of creativity and decided to roll with it. Hope you all like it.
  11. Karl Bollers to me was a mixed bag type of writer. Some things I liked, something I didn't care for and some things I outright hated. Indeed, although to be honest, I now see that as the kid friendly version of Naugus torturing Julian. I think if we really knew what the writers originally had in mind for Naugus torturing Julian, it would have been A LOT darker in tone. Not that I didn't find Naugus turning Julian's head into a pig funny, but... I think Naugus had more sinister ideas in mind for Julian to punish him. I can't see Naugus just wanting to shape-shift Julian's head for that long of time for his amusement and not getting bored of it quickly.
  12. Yea, I seriously HATE that three fusions bullcrap of Naugus. It doesn't make any sense. Not to mention it's way too easy to use as plot convenience as Archie Sonic did. Naugus should be seen as just a super powerful wizard, but was defeated and exiled years past and is now trying to get his full power back. That's where Julian would come in. He would offer Naugus a partnership deal where if he helps him take over the planet with his evil magic, he'll turn over the planet to his control soon after in exchange for getting to be his right hand man, though never intending to honor that last part of the deal. The way I see Julian and Naugus' relationship is similar to the one of Plagueis and Sidious' from Star Wars. Julian would help Naugus as long as it was beneficial to him. Once it wasn't, he would cut him off permanently whether through exile or death. Oddly enough, the fact Naugus was out for revenge on Julian that intently shows me he took his betrayal very personally, that unlike Julian, he is a wizard of his word and would honor their deal as long as Julian did as well. Heck, I think he formed a partnership with Snively soon after more for the intent of getting Julian out of the picture than taking over the planet. Granted, I think he would also do it because he would see unlike Julian, Snively is alot more loyal of an individual in comparison and more worthy of being his right hand man. That's just my thoughts on it at least. Good point, though I would call them R-Series robots and have them look alot more intimidating and powerful because quite a few of the E-Series robots were just way too silly looking. I don't see anything wrong with Tails being super smart, but I think it should be shown something he was earned or was gifted this ability as he progressed as a character, not right from the get go. That's one thing I always hated about Tails' portrayals. He's automatically shown as a super genius, yet we've never see HOW he got that way in the first place. A decent explanation would've helped. Ok, I'll agree with you Tails got the X-Tornado way too early in the series. It really should have been something near the later part, like near the end of Season 2 or at the beginning of Season 3. But yea, I just always felt like Tails' original Tornado models were very lacking in terms of power and versatility. Ok, I liked the Tornado 2 I admit, but it never went any further than that. Plus, considering Robotnik has such high tech aircrafts, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense Tails wouldn't up his game as well. I'm not saying he has to make a whole fleet of X-Tornado like jets, but just having something more useful than a mere biplane would've been nice.
  13. Seeing this thread pretty dead as of late, here's a few more questions I'd like some feedback on. #1: How would you do the backstory of Naugus, whether it be his relationship with Julian, helping him take over the planet, getting betrayed by him when exploring the Void and so on? #2: Do you believe the E-Series robot Gamma could fit in the Satam universe? If no, explain why and if yes, how would you modify his role and appearance to do so? #3: How would you portray Tails when it came to his prowess of building mechs and airplanes/jets? Also, do you think the X-Tornado could work in the Satam universe as one of his inventions?
  14. Here's a question I'd like to get people's opinion about. How would you portray the cast and their life story involved in the Great War such as Armand D'Coolette, Jules and Sir Charles hedgehog, Amadeus Prower, King Max, Colin Robotnik, his daughter Hope along with some of the others as well?
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