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While I get that certain fans' feelings on the new characters after the reboot are mixed, I would like to see ideas on how they could be handled if they were introduced into the pre-reboot continuity.

What could be done differently with them?

Would they have different lives and backstories?

Well, I have a few ideas that I hope will get the creative juices for this concept flowing!

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Axel the Water Buffalo & Thunderbolt the Chinchilla:

Born in Efrika, these two grew up in an environment where their village was regularly harassed by the local gangs. The duo soon decided that enough as enough and took a stand.

They eventually formed their own crew and began taking out other gangs and making a reputation for themselves as one of the most feared gangs in Efrika, with their main rivals being the Bear Pack and Nasty Hyenas.

When Diesel united both gangs to become the Efrika Dark Egg Legion, Axel and Thunderbolt proceeded to rally the remaining gangs to oppose the Mad Doctor.

They were now the Storm Breakers.

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Wendy and the Witchcarters:

In the old days of the Forgotten War, Wendy was a highly respected member or Order of Ixis, to the point where Mogul chose her as a member of his Four Elite.

While she was on the front lines during the war, things took a drastic turn when both sides were menaced by none other than the second incarnation of Enerjak, whose power and uncontrollable nature were so threatening to the point where both sides we're forced to agree to a temporary-yet uneasy-truce t defeat the common enemy, one that Wendy strongly objected to.

While they were eventually victorious over Enerjak, Wendy immediately attempted to strike down one of the Knights, only to be critically wounded.

With the Order of Ixis losing more and more members, Wendy was forced to go into hiding and put herself into a special Crystal stasis, awaiting the day she could not only fully heal herself, but restore the order of it to its former glory...

Many years later, the last remaining follower of the Order; Naugus was on the run after being dethroned. He would attempt to hide out in one of the  ruins of an old Ixis Temple, and stumble across her Crypt...

Soon it was revealed that right before she sealed herself away in Crystal, Wendy called for at least three members of the order and placed a special "contract link" on each of them. She then told them to drop off the grid and live in obscurity, passing down the contract link through their descendants until the time came for her to awaken.

As such, when she finally awoke thanks to Naugus, the contact the link immediately activated, calling forth their most recent descendants to serve her:

Carrotia the Rabbit,
Falke Wulf,
and Bearenger the Grizzly

The Ixis Triad.

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So! What do you think? Any ideas you think might fit in the old continuity?

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Almost forgot about this one, I know it's technically not a character but its presence would be a major game-changer in the old reality:

The Sky Patrol:

By this point in the series, the Freedom Fighters NEEDED a battleship as an answer to the Death Egg. So, Team Freedom and Team Fighters combined their forces to easily overpower the remaining members of Battle Bird Armada and commandeer their airship.

Upon bringing it back to New Mobotropolis, Nicole would use her nanites remodify the exterior of the airship and alter its appearance (Yes the cannons and main tower would stick out from the top and the bottom would have that massive laser, but she could very easily change the outer color).

They would later get a Chaos Emerald from the special Zone and use that as a power source.

Thus, the Sky Patrol was built, ready to combat anything the Death Egg could throw at it.

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Thought up another Pre-SGW bio for a Post-SGW character:

Phage the CyberCat:

When E.V.E. hurled herself into the star, she truly thought that her existence had come to an end... what she did not expect was for the star to contain hundreds of Yellow Chaos Emeralds.

The mystic nature of the Chaos Emeralds combined with her unique amalgamation of technology ended up transferring her conscience into the Emeralds. Her mind was forced into a state of suspended animation, not completely aware of her predicament.

When the Emeralds were collected (along with the purple and other colored Chaos Emeralds in the Great Harmony) by A.D.A.M., she was dragged along for the ride, but could not interact with anyone. Later when the emeralds were all combined in the seven gems, her conscience became more self-aware within the Yellow Emerald.

Eventually, the heroes recovered the yellow Emerald from the special Zone and Nicole discovered her presents with a net. However, E.V.E.'s core was both fragmented and damaged, requiring a complete reboot.

With Nicole's help, E.V.E. reformated herself as a Mobian feline with black fur wearing a white mask. Feeling reborn, she took on a new name to represent her new life; Phage.

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Really cool stuff dude, really like the concept for Wendy. Way better then that Troll stuff used in the Reboot. XP

I don't have any bios for the Archie Cast, but I do have an interesting idea or two.

Thing is, for a lot of Post-Reboot Characters, a lot don't need to be changed all that much. Background would be a bit different, but most could fit in very well in either.

Clove and Cassia: Much of their background is similar, however I'd like to think that they would recently join the Legion after Clove either couldn't afford treatment for Cassia, or the current state of the world prevents her from getting help.

Doesn't help that access to New Mobotropolis is all but neigh impossible due to shifty political reasons. For Eggman, I like to think he could build his own group of Counter Freedom Fighters, to be a team that could match our Heroes to a degree. Something like that, and Clove would be one of the first members.

Shijin Warriors: They formed after Monkey Khan was mind controlled and killed the Dragon Kingdom FFers. Though it would be much more interesting for one or some of the members had relatives or friends that were lost, hence why they don't work with Monkey Khan.

That's just one way of incorporating those characters in the previous canon, but there's a variety of possibilities on how to do so. I encourage anyone to think of ways to do so for stories they would like to tell. :)

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On 8/24/2020 at 7:43 AM, Alphamon_Ouryuken said:

Wendy and the Witchcarters:

In the old days of the Forgotten War, Wendy was a highly respected member or Order of Ixis, to the point where Mogul chose her as a member of his Four Elite.

While she was on the front lines during the war, things took a drastic turn when both sides were menaced by none other than the second incarnation of Enerjak, whose power and uncontrollable nature were so threatening to the point where both sides we're forced to agree to a temporary-yet uneasy-truce t defeat the common enemy, one that Wendy strongly objected to.

While they were eventually victorious over Enerjak, Wendy immediately attempted to strike down one of the Knights, only to be critically wounded.

With the Order of Ixis losing more and more members, Wendy was forced to go into hiding and put herself into a special Crystal stasis, awaiting the day she could not only fully heal herself, but restore the order of it to its former glory...

Many years later, the last remaining follower of the Order; Naugus was on the run after being dethroned. He would attempt to hide out in one of the  ruins of an old Ixis Temple, and stumble across her Crypt...

Soon it was revealed that right before she sealed herself away in Crystal, Wendy called for at least three members of the order and placed a special "contract link" on each of them. She then told them to drop off the grid and live in obscurity, passing down the contract link through their descendants until the time came for her to awaken.

As such, when she finally awoke thanks to Naugus, the contact the link immediately activated, calling forth their most recent descendants to serve her

I like the idea of a blood-pact that compels people. You could make one of the FF descendants and feel the pull. It would create massive conflict in the organization due to this heros connection to Knothole. Tons of information could be stolen and used to unveil the forest city. It would be interesting to essentially elevate the simplicity of the witchcart lore in the game, which was obviously appealing to younger audiences, into a Grim fairy tale in-universe, about which there is much more nuance to discover. Perhaps “Wendy” is just that to Mobians today, and we unveil her more nuanced backstory through the plot. In the story she is just a slaver that forces wayward youths to mine in dungeons for wealth to appease her greed. But it reality it’s much bigger than that.   I like the idea of her being like Broomhilda from Banjo And Kazooie. She wants to steal beauty and wholeness. Take it deeper, she wants to restore her full constitution and powers she had from the apex of her life, at any cost. Perhaps she a beautiful Cleopatra style leading-woman once (or an Empress Irene), like Matron Malice in the Drizzt novels. Her whole life has been intrigue, and in her culture assassination and rebellion are a part of life. Just like a Klingon first officer’s paramount duty is to challange his captain to a fight to the death when proven flaccid with age and time, so is it in her culture to crush weak arcanist in her Magocracy. Instead of a game of brute force, it’s a Cold War of scheming and scrying, of potions and subtle manipulations of magic. I like the idea of the Ixis being dedicated wholly to furthering of powerful magic as a good in itself, to which there is little concern for morality and value in life. Wendy is vain and attached to herself, and others who are more puritanical in her order see her as unwilling to die so a more powerful witch can take her place, and further magic. She dishonors the order, much like a Klingon surviving to old age and not dying in battle would his culture. It’s the height of life to die at your apex as a challenge to be surmounted by your rising compatriots. In this case though, it’s not out of honorable battle but backstabbing. She knows she is weakened and her first instinct is to regain her glory not out of just mere vanity, but defense. Even in this modern day, there is someone that will be her Macleod to her Kurgan. There can only be one.

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On 8/24/2020 at 6:43 AM, Alphamon_Ouryuken said:

Wendy and the Witchcarters:

In the old days of the Forgotten War, Wendy was a highly respected member or Order of Ixis, to the point where Mogul chose her as a member of his Four Elite.

While she was on the front lines during the war, things took a drastic turn when both sides were menaced by none other than the second incarnation of Enerjak, whose power and uncontrollable nature were so threatening to the point where both sides we're forced to agree to a temporary-yet uneasy-truce t defeat the common enemy, one that Wendy strongly objected to.

While they were eventually victorious over Enerjak, Wendy immediately attempted to strike down one of the Knights, only to be critically wounded.

With the Order of Ixis losing more and more members, Wendy was forced to go into hiding and put herself into a special Crystal stasis, awaiting the day she could not only fully heal herself, but restore the order of it to its former glory...

Many years later, the last remaining follower of the Order; Naugus was on the run after being dethroned. He would attempt to hide out in one of the  ruins of an old Ixis Temple, and stumble across her Crypt...

Soon it was revealed that right before she sealed herself away in Crystal, Wendy called for at least three members of the order and placed a special "contract link" on each of them. She then told them to drop off the grid and live in obscurity, passing down the contract link through their descendants until the time came for her to awaken.

As such, when she finally awoke thanks to Naugus, the contact the link immediately activated, calling forth their most recent descendants to serve her:

Carrotia the Rabbit,
Falke Wulf,
and Bearenger the Grizzly

The Ixis Triad.

I really like this idea.

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Here comes another post-SGW character:

Eclipse the Darkling:

During the war between the Black Arms and the Xorda, one of the Black Arms' ships just barely managed to get through the warp gate, crash landing near one of Dr. Eggman's bases. The alien proceeded to decimate several badnick forces before it was finally killed, getting Dr. Eggman's attention.

Upon seeing the body of the creature, Eggman came to the conclusion that it would only be a matter of time before another invasion hit their world, and he needed to be ready this time.

Utilizing the data he had gathered on Shadow,  as well as the various notes and data from his grandfather's original trials when creating Project Shadow,  he got to work setting up his own biological weapon against the Black Arms, as well as anyone who tried to cross him.

Infused with both the power of the Black Arms, and a good amount of Chaos energy that had been siphoned from the emerald, Eggman had created his own biological life-form, named the most powerful weapon built on the Space Colony ARK; Eclipse.

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12 hours ago, Alphamon_Ouryuken said:

Here comes another post-SGW character:

Eclipse the Darkling:

During the war between the Black Arms and the Xorda, one of the Black Arms' ships just barely managed to get through the warp gate, crash landing near one of Dr. Eggman's bases. The alien proceeded to decimate several badnick forces before it was finally killed, getting Dr. Eggman's attention.

Upon seeing the body of the creature, Eggman came to the conclusion that it would only be a matter of time before another invasion hit their world, and he needed to be ready this time.

Utilizing the data he had gathered on Shadow,  as well as the various notes and data from his grandfather's original trials when creating Project Shadow,  he got to work setting up his own biological weapon against the Black Arms, as well as anyone who tried to cross him.

Infused with both the power of the Black Arms, and a good amount of Chaos energy that had been siphoned from the emerald, Eggman had created his own biological life-form, named the most powerful weapon built on the Space Colony ARK; Eclipse.

A love letter to grandpa. It’s certainly a different take. My issue is that their is a idealogical barrier. Eggman seems to believe machines are superior hence his intense focus on them. He would fight biology with a mechanized or at least cybernetic being. If he made something like this he would want to “perfect” it with strapping a whole lot of metal, possibly full Roboticization of the organism. An intense Machine Supremacism essentially bars Eggman from such open minded tactics.  
 

 This changes Eclipse motivation unless goes traitor at a later stage, which could make an interesting arc. Eclipse goal is to protect the earth, at least for the Eggman agenda. 
 

 An interesting twist would be to put this character in the hands of the Ixis. Go full Starfinder and make an eldricht genome soldier magic death alien. 

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Sea Daggers (Desert Raiders):

 

A group of Pirates that reside in the Sol Dimension. They have made a name for themselves by specifically targeting other pirates that harm the innocent, having gone toe-to-toe with Captain Whisker, Captain Metal, and various others.

Nephthys the Vulture: The leader of the team, having lost her home after Boltbeard's Pirates raided it for Treasure, she founded the team and managed to disrupt his entire operation, stealing one of his ships as a result. She is responsible for leading coordinated attacks.

Spike the Porcupine: He acts as the field leader when on Missions, usually using his speed in order to outwir his enemies.

Sonar the Fennec: the spy of the group, her main role usually being to gather intel.

Trevor Burrow the Mole: The muscle yet also the infiltrator of the group, his burrowing abilities allow him to get his allies behind enemy lines.

Gold the Tenrec: The team's Prophet. With her telepathic abilities she is able to see visions of possible events, allowing them to plan around their enemies. Recently however, she has been getting multiple visions of a mysterious silver Hedgehog...

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On 9/22/2020 at 10:18 AM, TheRedStranger said:

How would you redo Fiona Fox?

@Alphamon_Ouryuken, @Akessel92, and @Mike Arcade

Fiona Fox: I think she wold be decent as an anti-villain. She could be slumming it with Nack the weasel’s sister, Nic. I mean they could be recurring characters in arcs with Nack, Bean and Bark as competing mercenaries. 

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On 9/22/2020 at 11:18 AM, TheRedStranger said:

How would you redo Fiona Fox?

@Alphamon_Ouryuken, @Akessel92, and @Mike Arcade

For Fiona Fox in the Post-Reboot? Now that would be interesting, she presumably got hit with the SGW while outside of her natural home. So either one of two things would happen. Fiona could either end up rebooted in a different world/dimension/timeline with new memories and such, or she ends up back on Mobius...but due to being outside of normal reality end up the only one besides our Heroes and Eggman to remember how the world was before. Essentially, she could serve as a figure similar to Psycho Pirate from DC Comics, the only one who knows what the world used to be.  Fiona could have played a key role into undoing the Reboot, similar to other Crisis events DC had done. At least it would have given her something interesting to do other than be Scourge's hanger on.

Although, if Fiona was allowed to be in the Post-Reboot, she could have played a role as a fourth Team Hooligan member. Which would make sense as she did work with Nack's Sister and presumably worked with Bark and Bean in the past. Because in the Post-Reboot, Characters who are still around generally follow the same "path" more or less (Sonic being a Freedom Fighter, Antoine and Bunnie getting married, etc.). So it could be possible that Fiona would either go through similar events as before, or somehow end up becoming a distrustful rogue either way. Although without having Scourge as no "Multiverse" exists in the Post-Reboot (Places like Moebius and the No Zone, with exceptions like Sonic X and Boom).

I'm more in favor of a Fiona who remembers everything that happened, as a divine punishment for her crimes. The only one who never got a new life, unlike everyone else. Maybe she has a family in this Post-Reboot World? Who knows, after all those who do remember have two sets of memories with the latest ones end up presumably writing out the old ones. But for her, due to the reasoning above, she'd be exempt from forgetting. So if our Heroes crossed paths with her again, they might not even remember her at all. But her maybe trying to find her family and a sense of normalcy could make for an interesting redemption arc.  Still, nothing should come without a price, and that would be a good hook for those interested in the character.

At least, that's how I would handle her in a Post-Reboot Archie Sonic. Regarding her Pre-Reboot is a different post for another time, if I didn't already do that. XP

How do you think the Ancient Walkers and Mammoth Mogol would work in the Post-Reboot?

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